Comments on: The problem isn’t consumption – it’s Consumerism http://www.conservation-economy.org/2010/04/the-problem-isnt-consumption-its-consumerism/ A debate on what the marketing & communications industry should do in an economy not based on consumption Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:36:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: umbrarchist http://www.conservation-economy.org/2010/04/the-problem-isnt-consumption-its-consumerism/comment-page-1/#comment-633 umbrarchist Tue, 19 Apr 2011 03:20:48 +0000 http://www.conservation-economy.org/?p=802#comment-633 When do people talk about DEPRECIATION when they talk about growth? How much of GDP just compensates for depreciation. But our brilliant economists do not subtract the depreciation of durable consumer goods when they compute NET DOMESTIC PRODUCT. In fact they hardly ever mention NET Domestic Product. Running a world of almost SEVEN BILLION PEOPLE on defective grade school algebra is SO INTELLIGENT. http://www.toxicdrums.com/economic-wargames-by-dal-timgar.html Double-entry accounting is 700 years old and invented in Italy. Accounting was one of the first things corporations did with computers in the 50s and 60s. Now we have computers cheap enough to give to grade school kids. When was the last time you heard an economist suggest that accounting be mandatory in the schools? http://www.coloradocollege.edu/dept/ec/working%20papers/2005-03.pdf When do people talk about DEPRECIATION when they talk about growth? How much of GDP just compensates for depreciation. But our brilliant economists do not subtract the depreciation of durable consumer goods when they compute NET DOMESTIC PRODUCT. In fact they hardly ever mention NET Domestic Product. Running a world of almost SEVEN BILLION PEOPLE on defective grade school algebra is SO INTELLIGENT.

http://www.toxicdrums.com/economic-wargames-by-dal-timgar.html

Double-entry accounting is 700 years old and invented in Italy. Accounting was one of the first things corporations did with computers in the 50s and 60s. Now we have computers cheap enough to give to grade school kids. When was the last time you heard an economist suggest that accounting be mandatory in the schools?

http://www.coloradocollege.edu/dept/ec/working%20papers/2005-03.pdf

]]> By: Beloved http://www.conservation-economy.org/2010/04/the-problem-isnt-consumption-its-consumerism/comment-page-1/#comment-290 Beloved Tue, 07 Dec 2010 22:02:46 +0000 http://www.conservation-economy.org/?p=802#comment-290 I agree that consumerism is excessive, but I cannot agree that advertising fundamentally promotes this. The question is, "What kind of advertising?" Not all of it is the marketing of consumer goods. Doctors and hospitals advertise. Charity organizations advertise. In fact, this blog even has an advertising component. You promote books in your "resources" section, books that your readers must buy to acquire, and I'm sure you hope they will. (That also proves that not all consumer goods are unnecessary or not worth purchasing.) Advertising is a tool, and when a tool is misused you don't blame it but the user. Advertisers -- some not all -- use advertising to manipulate the public. Others use it simply to inform. The hearts of the advertisers and the consumers, whose greed is what advertisers prey on, are what drive consumerism, not advertising itself. I agree that consumerism is excessive, but I cannot agree that advertising fundamentally promotes this. The question is, “What kind of advertising?” Not all of it is the marketing of consumer goods. Doctors and hospitals advertise. Charity organizations advertise. In fact, this blog even has an advertising component. You promote books in your “resources” section, books that your readers must buy to acquire, and I’m sure you hope they will. (That also proves that not all consumer goods are unnecessary or not worth purchasing.)

Advertising is a tool, and when a tool is misused you don’t blame it but the user. Advertisers — some not all — use advertising to manipulate the public. Others use it simply to inform. The hearts of the advertisers and the consumers, whose greed is what advertisers prey on, are what drive consumerism, not advertising itself.

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